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Co-Creating With Your “Audience”

28 Saturday Jan 2017

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As we continue to plan our development and release strategy for “Inside-Out, Outside-In,” we are struggling to come to terms with our relationship to the eventual audience of the film. It doesn’t take much reflection to come to the realization that 20th century definitions of the word “audience” no longer apply. So, I’d like filmmakers to consider how greatly things have changed in terms of the audience’s consumption of media and then build your film in accordance with new realities (or at least in awareness of them).

First of all, in 2017, practically every human being in the United States under the age of 50 is a content creator and a content curator, because of social media. In days gone by, people identified with their profession – maybe they were a bricklayer or teacher or doctor or cop – and to a great degree, left art to the artists. They certainly – for the most part – didn’t conceive of themselves as part-artist (perhaps some of them did, who had a painting hobby or the like). But now, almost everyone in America is part-artist. They are part-actor-photographer with the selfies they share on Instagram and part-writer with their Facebook posts. They are part-curator with what they choose to retweet on Twitter and part-filmmaker on Snapchat. And building followings in these various platforms affords status in a similar way that authors used to receive from being on a best-seller list or winning a prestigious literary award. Perhaps it’s a cruder version of that sort of status, but on some level, achieving a higher status and more cultural influence is achieving a higher status and more cultural influence. And now, what anyone expresses may legitimately, in terms that data can measure, accrue status. In 1950, artists and filmmakers and fashion designers might affect how the culture perceived this or that issue or trend. (Think of the style influence of Audrey Hepburn). But now, social media “winning” could easily strike a bricklayer with an iPhone (I have MANY friends who would follow a hot shirtless bricklayer on Instagram), who could accidentally launch a new catchphrase or look. We’re all actors now.

In one way, this is great. Why shouldn’t everyday people have a shot at influencing their own culture through what they express? Why should only elite-level artists have this potential to influence others culturally? Maybe, in the past, artists have abused the privilege and overestimated their insight and observations of life compared to non-artists. So perhaps, the scales are evening up…and for the first time.

Some artists have responded to the democratization of cultural influence by trying to make their work less accessible to the common man. This impulse for abstraction grants the artist the ability to retain feelings of superiority and greater economic power from his creations. Accessibility is all too easy to interpret as the “part-artist” energy of the prosumer, so artists work double time to make their work abstract and intellectual, sometimes for the sake of vanity rather than purity of purpose. After all, if everybody’s expressions are equally valuable, artists would have an extraordinarily difficult time getting paid (which is already happening, of course). Then, there are other artists who pander to the masses even more, by making their content shorter or more shareable, more focused on viral potentiality. This is just base greed, a desire to brazenly profit off a new set-up before bothering to understand the implications of technological change or the purpose of artistic ventures in the first place.

So what is a conscientious artist to do? Some well-meaning artists try to deny the changing landscape and hold onto the past. But this seems foolish – times they are a’changing and denial/obstinance serves no one. Others become so overwhelmed that they retreat from the landscape altogether but this seems like, well, weakness. As artists, we must meet the challenges of our time and, hopefully, provide some insight for others to do the same.

So, knowing all that, I think the best model for the future is thinking of the audience as fellow artists and to see your project as a mission to create something together. This is especially true during the phase of the project when your film touches the audience directly. Their reaction should be incorporated as part of the story of the work itself. We no longer live in a world where people sit in a darkened theatre, let the film soak into them and leave, a grateful and changed audience. So why pretend we do, even if that sort of arrangement used to grant incredible status to the film’s creators? Now, your audience is making the experience with you – and deserves much of the credit, too. Yes, your feature film is the most intense part of the experience created, but it is no longer the only show in town, even in terms of the experience of said feature film.

How do we successfully co-create something with the audience? This is where creativity and ingenuity come into play. For my current film, Guys Reading Poems, we’ve created a series of open mic poetry readings in Los Angeles as a way for our audience to express their own poetry, not just watch the selections we included in the film. And sometimes, we find gems that are superior to what we make ourselves, such as the poem “Millennium” by Elena Secota. So we then double back and use our growing audience to turn a spotlight onto Ms. Secota, a fellow co-creator of the “Guys Reading Poems” experience. This provides a positive feedback loop that truly serves both our film and the community – as equals.

So what’s our co-creating strategy for “Inside-Out, Outside-In”? To be honest, I don’t know yet. They call it brainstorming because it feels like a raging thunder crossing back and forth in your head. But eventually – and hopefully soon – we’ll land on a good idea. And then, you can be part of the film…and share in its accomplishments.

In the meantime, I offer you “Millennium” by Elena Secota.

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Hunter Lee Hughes is a filmmaker and actor living and working in Los Angeles and the founder of Fatelink. His current feature film Guys Reading Poems is touring film festivals and this blog is dedicated to the process of making his second feature film, “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” If you enjoy the blog, please support our team by following us on Facebook, Twitter (@Fatelink) or Instagram (@Fatelink).

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Remember: Your film is someone’s first job…

03 Tuesday Feb 2015

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american productivity, finding a job in movie production, first job, Guys Reading Poems, how to get my first job in the movie industry, hunter lee hughes, jason fracaro, Patricia Velasquez, production assistant, Sergio Cardenas

For years, you’ve been struggling. Rewriting your script between jobs. Drawing up a business plan. Raising money. Meeting actors. Shotlisting. Rewriting your script again. The list is seemingly endless, but you finally get your first feature film off the ground. You’re on set, feeling proud if somewhat overwhelmed. You look around. Spot a production assistant. You realize that although you’ve paid years worth of dues that your film is someone else’s very first day on the job. And that realization helps you remember why you’re on set in the first place.

photo (1)In my case, that somebody was Sergio Cardenas. He’s originally from Peru, studied music at Shepherd University. His long-term goals include producing films and also composing music for movies. After the shoot, we caught up and traded notes about our experience.

Hunter: How many film sets had you worked on before Guys Reading Poems?

Sergio: Guys Reading Poems was my first experience…and I was so nervous because I had no idea what I was supposed to do.

Hunter: What was it like to be on set?

Sergio: Really nice. Personally, I really like it a lot. One thing that I enjoyed from Guys Reading Poems was that a lot of people knew each other before, so you were able to see that there was a nice flow, a good working environment, but also creative because you have to do things on the spot sometimes. People were really considerate of other people’s feelings and situations. I mean, sometimes there were problems but people worked to make things go smoothly. Just the fact of being on the set, watching the camera, seeing how the crew moved, the rhythm. One thing that surprised me a lot was that you have to be there for like 12 hours. I was like, “What?!?!” And it started on Sunday until Friday and we had Saturday off. In Peru, my schedule was different. You start on Monday and end on Friday, you start at 8 a.m. and end at 5 p.m. In that way, it was a change.

Hunter: What did you learn from working on a movie set?

Sergio: Many things. For example, the first thing is teamwork. The whole thing is a result of each department – the people who are doing the electricity, the lighting, the set, the camera, the costumes – it’s amazing. All that has to work on time because there are time limits. You have to finish in one day a certain amount of the script. If you go beyond that, you’re done. You understand that being nice with people makes things smoother than being a douchebag, you know? Just be nice with people and communicate. Listen. That’s very important. There is a lot of trust, which is important. I’m getting to work on Guys Reading Poems and none of you know me at all. But the people who don’t know you at all give you the trust to have the keys to their car, give you the money to go to the store or whatever. Coming from where I come from, in South America, it’s a jungle. But in a different way. It’s hard to trust people because people cheat a lot.

american flagAlso, I like how efficient Americans are. They are super efficient, but they’re not like the Germans. Efficient but not robotic. Not rigid. They also chill out, but doing their thing good and responsible. I really like that. People come, do their thing, do it good and it’s like, “Wow.”

Hunter: What made you decide to try to work in the movie business?

Sergio: At the beginning, it was kind of unconscious. I was not aware of what I was doing. I always liked movies so I found these posts looking for production assistants for making a film and then I said, “Why not?” Let’s discover the process. To that post, I got contacted through Jason [Fracaro]. He wrote me back and called me and asked me some questions and after all that process he said, “Welcome to the club” and that’s how it started.

Hunter: There are a lot of people out there curious to work in the movie business who haven’t quite made the plunge yet. What would you say to them?

Sergio: Try it. Try. Definitely. We grow in a society that is always telling you, “Don’t do this. Do that,” for whatever the reason but the only way if you will know if something resonates with you is if you really try it. You have to experiment. I wouldn’t tell that person try it only once. What if the first time was a bad experience? In that way, I’m lucky because my first time was a good experience. But what if your first experience was bad? You have to give it a few shots and then depending on how you feel and what you think, you take your own decision.

Hunter: What was your favorite moment on set?

Sergio: Many things. The magic when you would say “action” and the silence would come and the actors would start to take life. It’s a movie. It’s not real life anymore. Watching Patricia [Velasquez] and all of a sudden we hear, “Action” and she’s so intense. The movie is coming alive and it’s so intense. I like it a lot.

Hunter: What’s next for you and how will you take the lessons you learned on Guys Reading Poems and apply it to future jobs?

Sergio: For me, keep doing what I’m doing. Working on sets. Knowing people because this is teamwork, so you can’t do it all by yourself. You need a lot of collaboration. Getting more clear on what types of movies I would like to do and finding a way to make it. I still don’t have – “This is the path.” I have a general idea and I’m working how to achieve all that. That’s the stage I’m in now.

Sergio Cardenas

Sergio Cardenas

Talking with Sergio is a good reminder for all of us as filmmakers: if your film is someone’s first job, do you care how they remember it? How it shapes them?

Sergio is a proud freelancer and can be contacted for production work at: universusxxi@gmail.com

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Hunter Lee Hughes is a filmmaker and actor living and working in Los Angeles and the founder of Fatelink. His current feature film Guys Reading Poems is touring film festivals and this blog is dedicated to the process of making his second feature film, “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” If you enjoy the blog, please support our team by following us on Facebook, Twitter (@Fatelink) or Instagram (@Fatelink).

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Crowdfunding: Prep and Execution

22 Thursday Jan 2015

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Probably the most common question I receive from fellow independent filmmakers is, ‘How do we make crowdfunding work for our project?’

I had the same question for my first feature film, Guys Reading Poems, and – luckily – I was able to ask Leah Cevoli, an expert in the field. She helped us navigate strategy and effective execution within the crowdfunding space and gave practical pointers to maximize our chances. Ultimately, we were successful in our raise, which has made all the difference in the life of our film. So since so many folks have questions about crowdfunding for their films, I thought I’d return to Ms. Cevoli and see what she had to say!

Leah Cevoli

Leah Cevoli

Hunter: So Leah, I consulted with you on Guys Reading Poems Kickstarter crowdfunding campaign. I can honestly say that without your help, we would have died on the vine. So thank you for that. Crowdfunding is probably the number one topic that filmmakers bring up when they speak to me. They recognize its potential value to their lives, but are sometimes a little lost and overwhelmed with it. And sometimes I see that look in their eyes that says – FREE MONEY!!!! – and I worry. What would you say is the biggest misperception people have about crowdfunding for webseries, short films and feature films?

Leah: You’re welcome.  I was truly impressed with how you absorbed all of the information I gave you AND put it into action for such a strong finish! Congrats!

The biggest misperception is that most filmmakers, inventors, etc think that if you have a great concept, you can put it up on a crowdfunding platform and it will get funded.  The second biggest misperception is that if you have a great concept, cool rewards, and a great video you can place it on a crowdfunding platform and people will just find it and fund it.

Hunter: You mention inventors. Some people have expressed that – going forward – crowdfunding will be more effective for new consumer products and apps rather than filmed entertainment. I guess the theory is that people are essentially pre-buying items they can use rather than sort of angel gifting for an artist. Do you agree with this theory? How can films continue to expand in the crowdfunding space?

Leah: I do think that we will see more and more products, inventions if you will. Crowdfunding gives so many people that otherwise wouldn’t have had a chance to fund the next chia pet, snuggies, or pet rock a platform to get their idea out there.   However, I don’t see it dying down for filmed entertainment either.  If anything, it gives the consumer a better and more varied option of the entertainment choices they can view.  And in effect, it’s a pre-buy for the film’s dvd, poster etc.  Speaking of pre-buys, I believe if musicians paid more attention to crowdfunding, they could take much of the power back into their hands that was lost with the breakdown of record labels and online file sharing.

Hunter: That makes sense. And musicians have tour tickets to offer as well! If you had to narrow it down to a couple variables, what are the biggest differences between a campaign that is successful and a campaign that is unsuccessful?

Leah: Preparation, outreach to their personal friends and family, backer communications, and non-stop social media content.

Hunter: Very true. In our campaign, although it may’ve seemed like it was taking place ‘online’ I was making lots of personal phone calls to colleagues, friends and family members, lobbying them to back us. We held Kickstarter fundraisers – large and small. We arranged for potential substantial backers to tour our office and view some of our creative work. Online crowdfunding doesn’t take away your responsibility as a filmmaker to ask people for money in person or on the phone. You have to do it, in my opinion. So knowing that crowdfunding campaigns are sometimes more than meets the eye…what kind of prep time do you suggest for campaigns? Does that change depending on the amount of money being raised?

Leah: It depends on the team.  Not so much the goal amount, but more so the size of their social networks, and the number of team members that are fully vested. It also depends on the skill-sets of the team; do they need to hire a video editor, a graphics person, a social media assistant? On average, I would say at least a month prep time, but in reality it’s probably more like three months.

Hunter: Where do you lean – Kickstarter or IndieGogo or another option?
Leah: I prefer Kickstarter for a number of reasons; the urgency of all or nothing is appealing to me and to most others, and the back-end is much more user friendly when communicating with backers. I do like IndieGogo, and have coached a dozen or so campaigns over there, but I prefer Kickstarter.

Hunter: What has been your happiest moment on a crowdfunding campaign?

Leah: Aw man, this is a tough one.  I’ve had ecstatic moments on so many campaigns. I’ve appeared on the 11:00 news with the team of the feature film Blood Kiss. I’ve pulled all-nighters with clients. I’ve had major A-list celebs and magazines mention clients.  There are a lot of happy moments. In a nutshell, every win has been a happy moment.

Hunter: Finally, you are a woman of many talents, including acting. How is your acting going? Does your expertise in crowdfunding help you in your acting or does it cause others to think you are “less serious” as an actress? Many of our readers have more than one talent and sometimes one is related to “business” and the other to “creative.” How do you balance the two in terms of your life and how you present yourself to others?

Leah: Thank you!  I’ve got some really great projects coming out this year.  I recently voiced two characters for the feature film The Grid Zombie: Outlet Maul, shot a lead role in the horror flick Killcast, and will soon be voicing a character in The Sultana Documentary, executive produced by Jim Michaels and Sean Astin. I’m also attached in various acting and producing capacities to quite a few projects who are scheduled to shoot in 2015.

I’ve been a member of SAG (now SAG-AFTRA) since 2005.  I launched my crowdfunding business in 2013.  I’ve been acting a lot longer, and have built up a name for myself, with some really great credits on my resume, yet I absolutely have struggled with the fear of not being seen as an actor if people see me as a crowdfunding manager. As artists, we never want people to associate us with anything but our artistic career, no one ever wants to talk about their waitress job, for fear of not seeming like a talented actor.  For most of this time, crowdfunding has been my “waitress” job, and I didn’t really want to talk about. My clients have all been word of mouth, referrals and I’ve been happy with that.  This year, 2015, I’m structuring it more like a business, speaking at more events and workshops, and boldly talking about my business outside of acting. I’m making it work for me, and to be honest, the majority of projects I’ve been cast in this year have been in some way related to crowdfunding. I’m leveraging my skills at raising funds, to align with better projects and teams. I think it’s becoming much more acceptable and frankly necessary, to have multiple streams of income based on your skillsets. Yes, I’m a damn good actress, but I’m also a wiz at crowdfunding and I’m embracing that, as should anyone else who’s reading this and concerned that one of their skills may diminish another.  It’s just not true anymore.

Hunter: Agree with you 100%. Becoming a more savvy businessperson does not mean you are less of an artist. In fact, it’s empowering and that can help bring additional solidity to the creative side that’s then more free to experiment and take risks. Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to talk with us, Leah! And thanks for helping us with Guys Reading Poems. If we decide to crowdfund for Inside-Out, Outside-In, you’ll be hearing from me again…

For those of you interested in working with Leah, she has generously offered a 10% discount to readers of this blog. Let her know that you’re from InsideOut film blog and she will apply the discount!

Crowdfunding Contact Info:
www.leahcevoli.com/crowdfunding-packages

Leah Cevoli

Leah Cevoli

Also, you may be able to glean more gratis info from Leah on crowdfunding by connecting to her social media networks…

Social Media Info:                               www.twitter.com/Leah_Cevoli            www.facebook.com/LeahCevoli                    www.imdb.me/LeahCevoli

 

Hunter Lee Hughes is a filmmaker and actor living and working in Los Angeles and the founder of Fatelink. His current feature film Guys Reading Poems is touring film festivals and this blog is dedicated to the process of making his second feature film, “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” If you enjoy the blog, please support our team by following us on Facebook, Twitter (@Fatelink) or Instagram (@Fatelink).

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Running your set: time and money-saving tips from our line producer

16 Sunday Nov 2014

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Bradley Bernstein is not just a dear friend and my manager (through his company Fast Track Management). He’s been nominated for a Tony award and won an Olivier award for producing theatre and has a lot of experience producing television programming here in Los Angeles. When I told Bradley about “Guys Reading Poems” and our idea to transform its original concept from a new media piece to a feature film and how we were in over our heads, Bradley GENEROUSLY stepped on board to help – as our line producer. He worked tirelessly and went WAY beyond the call of duty. We couldn’t have done it without him. Here’s what he had to say about his function on our film. Some of his tips will doubtless save you time, money and headaches.

Hunter: So Bradley, you did a fantastic job line producing “Guys Reading Poems.” Thank you. I’m trying now to make sure I learn as much as possible as we prep the second feature. So looking back at “Guys Reading Poems” from a line producing perspective, what would you say was harder than anticipated and what would you say was easier than anticipated?

Bradley: Thank you, Hunter.  I would say it was a bit more difficult merging the new media project that was filmed a year earlier with the ultra low budget shoot.*  I think because no one really had any experience with that type of merger we just had to figure it out as we went.  I think the wardrobe ended up being easier for me than I anticipated.  We had a LOT of costumes considering our budget.  I mean a lot of costumes.  But our wardrobe department really came through and I did not feel the pressure at the end of the day that I thought I was going to feel.

Hunter: We spent a good chunk of our budget on soundstage rental. A lot of low budget indies shoot on location, so this was a big decision for us. From your perspective, was it worth it? Do you think indie films should consider soundstages even if it sounds like sticker shock at first?

A photo of TTS Studios, the soundstage where we shot "Guys Reading Poems"

A photo of TTS Studios, the soundstage where we shot “Guys Reading Poems”

Bradley: The soundstage approach was the perfect choice for us!  In retrospect, I would have negotiated the deal for the stage a bit different but I would not have changed my mind about shooting at one.  We saved so much money at the end of the day for our particular film.  I think each project has its own needs so there are no specific rules in this regards.  I would say keep an open mind.

Hunter: The SAG-AFTRA ULB contract allowed us to work with both union and non-union actors. Did this present any challenges? Any notes for other filmmaking teams here?

Bradley: This did not present any challenges in regards to the actors themselves.  You do have to remember there are different types of paperwork to fill out.  Educate yourself!!!  Make sure you ask your SAG rep lots of questions!!  A line producer has a lot of responsibilities and you don’t want to be wasting your time filling out paperwork multiple times because you used the wrong form!!!

Hunter: We had a number of scheduling challenges with GRP, especially with our child actor and all the regulations surrounding that. Do you have any general advice to other filmmakers regarding scheduling? Any advice specifically about scheduling with child actors?

Bradley: OK child actors LOL.  This was the first film where I had the opportunity to work with a child actor.  I have to say I was a bit nervous.  There are a LOT of state rules and union rules!  But don’t be scared!!!  Everyone I worked with from the child

Luke Judy in "Guys Reading Poems" photo by Michael Marius Pessah

Luke Judy in “Guys Reading Poems” photo by Michael Marius Pessah

actor’s agent and manager to the on-set teacher were great.  They were happy to walk me through the regulations.  No one wants to see you violate and no one is there to take advantage.  So don’t worry! You just need to understand the rules in advance so you can schedule your shoot appropriately.  Kids need breaks on set differently than adults.  Also, you need to watch them – make sure they are not getting tired.  Yes, there are rules to protect them but you should protect them beyond the rules and account for that in your schedule.  We had a 7 year old.  He was GREAT.  But if I saw him getting tired or a bit antsy I pulled him from set for a 20 minute leg stretch.  Know that you will need to do this.  It is good for the kid and good for the production.  Also – have toys on set (ask the parents what their kid likes)!!!

Hunter: I noticed you switched from one budgeting software to a different program midway through the process. Can you tell us your preferred budgeting software and why? Any tips on using this sort of software?

Bradley: Yeah, this was a time killer.  I am not sure I want to name the first software product we used.  It was not one I was familiar with.  We used it because it was the system my predecessor on the project had used so we felt it would be more efficient to stick with the same program.  WRONG!  It was buggy!  I mean really buggy!  Also, stick with what you know.  What works for you!  Movie Magic works for me!!!  I like the program!  I understand the program!!!  If there is a better one out there, I am happy to take the time to learn it, but right now that is the one that works for me. Here is my tip.  There are great online vids that teach you how to use the software. WATCH THEM!  Also – Save, Save, Save your changes!!

Hunter: Oftentimes, you served as a liason between the department heads and rest of the producing team. Can you talk a little bit about working with people and the strategies of dealing with the various departments?

Bradley: In my opinion the line producer is the hub for all the department heads.  As such, there should be a constant flow of communication between the line producer and all the departments.  I like to make sure when in production I am visiting all the departments on a regular basis.  Make sure all the heads and their entire staffs are happy.  Even more than just being happy, I want to make sure everyone knows they can come to me with problems.  I cannot fix something if I don’t know it is broken. There are a LOT of personalities on a film set.  Most of the time people don’t know each other before coming to set.  So there is potential to make new friends, but there is also the potential to not get along.  I am not just running the budget on a show.  I am making sure that the wheels and cogs of a set are running smoothly.  So if people don’t get along, I need to know and be there to help!

Always stay calm!  As a line producer, try never to take sides in disagreements! Listen to what everyone has to say.  In the end, you have to decide not was is necessarily good for an individual, but what is good for the entire production.  You will not always be popular, but you have a job to do – to make sure the production stays on budget and stays on schedule.  Keeping that in mind, you accomplish this goal by continually checking in with your departments and making sure you are informed!  You are not only judge, but you are jury and you have to take that very seriously!  Most people think the director is the leader on a set but that is not entirely true.  The director is the leader of the creative vision and with his/her team runs the set while the camera is rolling, etc.  But the director is not running the action off the set and nor should he/she.  Part of my job is to keep any/all problems away from the director (as much as I can) so he/she can stay focused on the creative vision of the film.

Hunter: To advise newer line producers, what one line item are they probably underestimating the most and what line item might they be overestimating?

Bradley: To new line producers:  You are always underestimating your entire budget! (LOL) but apparently I am supposed to pick a single line item.  Geez that is hard.  I would say FOOD!  Never every skimp on food!  Feed the machine and the machine will work!  I find that a lot of line producers overestimate how much they are going to pay on cameras/lightening/electrical.  That just comes from experience.

Hunter: Some of our readers might be newer to dealing with agents and managers. Any tips on the courtesies or strategies involved in communicating with an actor’s team, especially if they are to be cc’d on information relevant to the line producer?

Bradley: Agents and managers are people too!  Don’t be afraid of them!  There is really not a lot of interaction between a line producer and a talent rep, to be honest. But on a smaller film, a line producer tends to handle a lot more, so I would not be surprised if you end up having to contact a rep.  Just explain who you are and what you need.  Most reps are more than happy to take care of you.  If the rep asks you something outside of your area, just politely explain that it is not your purview and redirect them to the correct person.  Never answer a question that you don’t know the answer to!

Hunter: What has been your happiest memory working on “Guys Reading Poems” so far?

Bradley: My happiest moment was the move in day at our sound stage.  I love move in days!  All our crew get to meet each other (if they have not already).  We get to settle in to our areas (me included).  It is like the first day of camp.  Finding our way.  I love producing film and tv shows.  So the first day is the start of the adventure.  The last day is the saddest.  I want to be a far away from the sad day as possible.  I also really enjoy the by myself time during the development process when I first start building a budget.  That is my zen time!

Hunter and Bradley talk on a daily basis, occasionally order in pizza from Lucifer’s and are in the process of developing new material for both film and television, including Inside-Out, Outside-In.

*Editor’s note: Some footage was shot and originally registered as a new media project with SAG-AFTRA for “Guys Reading Poems.” We never released that footage because we decided to incorporate it into a larger piece – a feature film. We then obtained permission from SAG-AFTRA to change our contract from New Media to SAG ULB, but with that change caused some practical and paperwork challenges.

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Hunter Lee Hughes is a filmmaker and actor living and working in Los Angeles and the founder of Fatelink. His current feature film Guys Reading Poems is touring film festivals and this blog is dedicated to the process of making his second feature film, “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” If you enjoy the blog, please support our team by following us on Facebook, Twitter (@Fatelink) or Instagram (@Fatelink).

 

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This film is not dead: The revival of “Inside-Out, Outside-In”

09 Sunday Nov 2014

Posted by hunterlh in Development, Pre-Production

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Alexander Dreymon, Blake Sheldon, Christos Vasilopoulos, daniel berilla, dreams come true., Gopal Divan, Guys Reading Poems, hunter lee hughes, jason fracaro, jerod meagher, justin schwan, Lydia Hearst, Megan Sousa, Michael Marius Pessah, Patricia Velasquez, rex lee, Vincent Montuel

Several years ago, I started this blog to chronicle the progress of “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” I was determined to direct my first feature film and wanted to share the ups and downs of the journey with like-minded creative types. Well, a funny thing happened on the way to the set….

One-sheet - "Guys Reading Poems"  designed by Chris Friend

One-sheet – “Guys Reading Poems”
designed by Chris Friend

Turns out, I achieved my dream to direct my first feature film. Only, to my great surprise, that film turned out to be a completely different project than “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” “Guys Reading Poems” – a neo-noir, black-and-white feature – consumed my time and energy to the point that I wasn’t able to continue to blog here. However, now that the film is safely into post-production, I am returning to my original mission to get “Inside-Out, Outside-In” off the ground. But now the conversation is a little different. Instead of how to get a first feature film off the ground, I’m dealing with the (ever-so-slightly) better problem of how to get a second feature funded and produced. (ok so yeah, I’m bragging a little….I can’t help it.)

Let me explain.

In the beginning of 2013, I was taking meetings and pitching “Inside-Out, Outside-In” but having great difficulty raising the kind of capital needed to fund a story that takes place in both modern day Los Angeles and ancient India. I came up with an idea – almost on a whim – to combine classic poetry with an all-male secret society narrative and shot some footage relatively cheaply. The results were so good that many trusted friends and advisors suggested I continue developing “Guys Reading Poems” as a feature film. And so I did. Relatively quickly, private equity investors rallied around “Guys Reading Poems” and we were also able to crowdfund more than $40,000 to raise enough money to transform the original project into a feature. Casting also fell into place relatively quickly (actors love black-and-white, apparently, especially when the cinematographer is someone as talented as ours – Michael Marius Pessah). Patricia Velasquez (“The Mummy”, “Arrested Development”) agreed to play the female lead role and Alexander Dreymon (“American Horror Story”) – a former acting student of mine – signed on to play the male lead. Lydia Hearst (“The Face”) also liked the script and agreed to play a key supporting role and so did Rex Lee (“Entourage”) and Christos Vasilopoulos (“Banshee”). The rest of the cast was populated with talented up-and-comers Jerod Meagher (“ABCs of Death 2”), Jason Fracaro and Vincent Montuel (all of whom also took my acting class at StoryAtlas) and also Blake Sheldon (“Age of Reason”), Justin Schwan (“Cutback”), Daniel Berilla (“Kissing Darkness”), Megan Sousa and Gopal Divan. Of the entire cast, only Blake and Lydia were brand new to my life. The rest were either friends or colleagues from previous encounters on projects or in acting classes. In the case of Rex, well, he’s one of my very best friends in the world.

What can I say? I got lucky…but in a way that I could not have predicted.

Looking back, I can’t help but wonder if there was some divine guidance that brought “Guys Reading Poems” up to bat first. Like I mentioned, the budgetary requirements are less than those required for “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” There’s a great tradition of directors starting their careers in black-and-white and the neo-noir feel needed for “Guys Reading Poems” allows me to knock on the door of that club. “Guys Reading Poems” is more daring in terms of its form, whereas “Inside-Out, Outside-In” is a much more traditional narrative. There’s nothing wrong with traditional narratives (in fact, I love them) but one could argue that a more experimental approach is more likely to convince festival programmers and audiences to give a first-time director a chance. Also, since 90% of the cast were personal friends or longstanding colleagues, there was enough trust on both sides to build the type performances I admire – where the dark side of the psyche and its vulnerabilities combine with human need towards a quixotic goal or dream. As a first time director, I needed personal access to the hearts and minds of the talent and “Guys Reading Poems” offered that sort of opportunity. Along the way, I developed relationships that are crucial for my future success not only with acting talent but also investors, fellow producers, department heads, creative collaborators and crew (and yes, Shpetim Zero did the costumes for “Guys Reading Poems” as well, see below).

But now, it’s time to finish what I started with “Inside-Out, Outside-In” so you’ll be hearing from me a lot more! Over the next few weeks, I’ll try to condense some of the lessons of “Guys Reading Poems” and how I feel they might set up “Inside-Out, Outside-In” for success. Then, I’ll move into chronicling the next stages of the project.

I planned for “Inside-Out, Outside-In” to take two years to finish and start hitting the festival circuit relatively soon. Sometimes, plans don’t work out…yet, somehow, strangely, even mysteriously, dreams do.

Jason Fracaro in "Guys Reading Poems"  photo by Michael Marius Pessah

Jason Fracaro in “Guys Reading Poems”
photo by Michael Marius Pessah

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Hunter Lee Hughes is a filmmaker and actor living and working in Los Angeles and the founder of Fatelink. His current feature film Guys Reading Poems is touring film festivals and this blog is dedicated to the process of making his second feature film, “Inside-Out, Outside-In.” If you enjoy the blog, please support our team by following us on Facebook, Twitter (@Fatelink) or Instagram (@Fatelink).

 

 

 

 

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